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 **Dan Mayhew** \\
-Feb 23  #26124
+Feb 23 #26124
-Yesterday, after I practiced remounts I realized my barnacle-style leash was no longer attached to my waist. Apparently the buckle on my waist belt was scrapped open as I slid over the side of my bucket during one of my remounts.  Has anyone else had this problem?  Any solutions? Here is a pic of the buckle that failed.
+Yesterday, after I practiced remounts I realized my barnacle-style leash was no longer attached to my waist. Apparently the buckle on my waist belt was scrapped open as I slid over the side of my bucket during one of my remounts. Has anyone else had this problem? Any solutions? Here is a pic of the buckle that failed.
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 **Reivers Dustin** \\
-Feb 23  #26125
+Feb 23 #26125
-wow, this is in the category where LB lives.  He used to twist off peoples leash attachment clip because they had a weakness to torque.  Not break anything, but just the way the jaws worked they had a way of coming loose.  I found some great clips that don't do this and replaced all the clips on my leashes.
+wow, this is in the category where LB lives. He used to twist off peoples leash attachment clip because they had a weakness to torque. Not break anything, but just the way the jaws worked they had a way of coming loose. I found some great clips that don't do this and replaced all the clips on my leashes.
-Amazing how little strings or buttons you would never suspect can raise hell.  In this case the handy pull release is a bit of convenience that has an evil side.  Expedition kayakers know this problem well.  If you chat with a BCU (British Canoe Union) certified coach they bring up amazing points.  Many of the little rules have heartbreaking tragedy in their history.  For example International surfskies have no knobs, or protruding bits.  The rudder shaft does not extend beyond the deck line.  The Saffa's and Ozzies laugh about our Huki boats.  They joke that the rudder post will ...ahem, rip off your scrotum mate.  I've heard of people catching a zipper pull on their PFD on a bungie tie-down.  A local tragic story involves a touring kayak.  The lady was a highly respected tour guide.  She was just off Larrabee trying some new gear.  They found her upside down not far from Whiskey Rock.  She had put a small container in the cockpit between her knees.  This messed up her eskimo roll and prevented a wet exit.
+Amazing how little strings or buttons you would never suspect can raise hell. In this case the handy pull release is a bit of convenience that has an evil side. Expedition kayakers know this problem well. If you chat with a BCU (British Canoe Union) certified coach they bring up amazing points. Many of the little rules have heartbreaking tragedy in their history. For example International surfskies have no knobs, or protruding bits. The rudder shaft does not extend beyond the deck line. The Saffa's and Ozzies laugh about our Huki boats. They joke that the rudder post will …ahem, rip off your scrotum mate. I've heard of people catching a zipper pull on their PFD on a bungie tie-down. A local tragic story involves a touring kayak. The lady was a highly respected tour guide. She was just off Larrabee trying some new gear. They found her upside down not far from Whiskey Rock. She had put a small container in the cockpit between her knees. This messed up her eskimo roll and prevented a wet exit.
-For my stern leash system I made my own belt with some parts from Hardware Sales.  The two inch webbing with those plastic clips.  I had to sew some of it.  Not so easy to escape, but I could probably manage it.  We don't do a lot of beach breach stuff around here anyway.
+For my stern leash system I made my own belt with some parts from Hardware Sales. The two inch webbing with those plastic clips. I had to sew some of it. Not so easy to escape, but I could probably manage it. We don't do a lot of beach breach stuff around here anyway.
 rd
 **bill** \\
-Feb 23  #26127
+Feb 23 #26127
-Yes I have. I tried it with a whitewater PFD years ago and the ball on the line attached to the buckle would catch on the rim and pull open the buckle.  You can’t use it with the buckle on a ski, and the whole system  is suspect.
+Yes I have. I tried it with a whitewater PFD years ago and the ball on the line attached to the buckle would catch on the rim and pull open the buckle. You can’t use it with the buckle on a ski, and the whole system is suspect.
 Bill.
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 **Dan Mayhew**
-Feb 23  #26128
+Feb 23 #26128
-Okay, that confirms it. I am going back to an ankle leash.  I would like to have a waist leash option for surfing into beaches and will search for other options.
+Okay, that confirms it. I am going back to an ankle leash. I would like to have a waist leash option for surfing into beaches and will search for other options.
 Thanks for the input.
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 **Nicholas Cryder** \\
-Feb 23  #26130
+Feb 23 #26130
 Hey Dan,
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 **Reivers Dustin** \\
-Feb 24  #26133
+Feb 24 #26133
-Nobody around here heard of leashes for first few years.  Boats, paddler and paddles got separated.  Some of us tried a technique of swimming with the paddle in order to catch a wind-blown boat.  You can make awesome speed, but only for a short time.  Then for some years most of us used just paddle to boat leash only.  The simplicity is great:  attached means hold something, separated means let go.  Still, it's a string that can tangle.  And must be attached mid-boat.
+Nobody around here heard of leashes for first few years. Boats, paddler and paddles got separated. Some of us tried a technique of swimming with the paddle in order to catch a wind-blown boat. You can make awesome speed, but only for a short time. Then for some years most of us used just paddle to boat leash only. The simplicity is great: attached means hold something, separated means let go. Still, it's a string that can tangle. And must be attached mid-boat.
-Dean and Morris might still be using paddle-only leashes.  Deano is a guy who spent years larking about in trees with chainsaws tied to his waist.  Morris is another guy with presence of mind worth trusting.  This is wonderful when you want both hands for rescue or opening a can of beer.
+Dean and Morris might still be using paddle-only leashes. Deano is a guy who spent years larking about in trees with chainsaws tied to his waist. Morris is another guy with presence of mind worth trusting. This is wonderful when you want both hands for rescue or opening a can of beer.
-I have been off-boat in 70mph winds and was amazed at the forces on my mid-boat leash.  It was tough getting the boat pulled back close to me and no way to turn it shape-wise to the wind.  So, you know, broadside mount with waves and wind issues. I would never be out there if I thought the wind was going to be like that.  But doing a downwinder you don't always know what's going to happen.
+I have been off-boat in 70mph winds and was amazed at the forces on my mid-boat leash. It was tough getting the boat pulled back close to me and no way to turn it shape-wise to the wind. So, you know, broadside mount with waves and wind issues. I would never be out there if I thought the wind was going to be like that. But doing a downwinder you don't always know what's going to happen.
-I've also come off the boat with my stern leash deal and I'm pleased with it.  A problem is not having the paddle leashed.  And I did have to pull the leash off the rudder.  But I don't care about remount speed.  I've put a paddle leash on while having the stern leash, but it makes me very nervous.  Michael M has a short paddle leash system worth checking, but I just can't go there.
+I've also come off the boat with my stern leash deal and I'm pleased with it. A problem is not having the paddle leashed. And I did have to pull the leash off the rudder. But I don't care about remount speed. I've put a paddle leash on while having the stern leash, but it makes me very nervous. Michael M has a short paddle leash system worth checking, but I just can't go there.
-This whole thing is wide open.  I might go back to paddle-only leash.  I don't expect to go really big anymore, but then how much can I control that?  Also, it's a problem to change systems very much.  I don't deal with change like I used to.  My caution for folks:  do your own work.  The state of your equipment and your skill with it is between you and misfortune.
+This whole thing is wide open. I might go back to paddle-only leash. I don't expect to go really big anymore, but then how much can I control that? Also, it's a problem to change systems very much. I don't deal with change like I used to. My caution for folks: do your own work. The state of your equipment and your skill with it is between you and misfortune.
 **Dennis Mowry** \\
-Feb 24  #26136
+Feb 24 #26136
 I like the leg leash and don't mind remounting sideways to the waves. Having the waves or wind push the boat away is a bit concerning.
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 **Jeff Hegedus** \\
-Feb 24  #26139
+Feb 24 #26139
 try a carabiner to pfd approach.
 **Larry Bussinger** \\
-Feb 25  #26140
+Feb 25 #26140
-One of the things with a stern/belt leash is that the belt has to be loose around the waist and loose between the leash and belt.  So that everything will spin around the waist and not wrap around you.  It also gives enough slop so you can reach and see the buckle under the pfd to unhook when coming in in surf.
+One of the things with a stern/belt leash is that the belt has to be loose around the waist and loose between the leash and belt. So that everything will spin around the waist and not wrap around you. It also gives enough slop so you can reach and see the buckle under the pfd to unhook when coming in in surf.
 Larry Bussinger

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