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-==== Storm Paddling ==== 
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-**Edoh Amiran** \\ 
-01/​09/​10 ​ #7691 
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-Thanks to Morris and Debbie for hosting, and to all the participants for their frank comments and suggestions and for sharing their experience. 
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-Bellow is my attempt at a summary of the meeting. 
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-The subject was winter storm paddling in Bellingham Bay.  In Morris'​s words: I'll define "​cold"​ as below 55F and windy as winds greater than 10 mph. Yeah, a lot of this stuff would apply to Lake Whatcom or Puget Sound, but let's stick to Bellingham Bay.... 
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-Categories of things to consider emerging from the discussion, with a few words that could describe each, were 
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-A. Goals -- play, race, point-to-point paddle. 
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-B. Equipment -- gear checklist, gear check, redundancy. 
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-C. Readiness -- skills, fitness, knowledge of weather conditions. 
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-D. Group dynamics -- communication,​ assessment of self and others, responsibility,​ safety margins. 
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-E. Responsibility -- for decisions, for others, to others. 
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-Comments made (mostly each by several people) about things to consider. 
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-On Goals -- discuss these explicitly (see D); suggested that in rough conditions paddling point to point with play and successful navigation be the main goal. 
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-On Equipment -- dress for immersion; bring some warming devices (skull cap, pogies, chemical hand warmers, etc.); bungee backup for rudder; tape 2-piece paddles for security; examine cables for corrosion; test radios (VHF preferred for communication in the group and to shore/​boats/​ coast guard); be aware of visibility. 
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-On Readiness -- ask yourself whether you are ready for these conditions on this day; ask yourself how far is your equipment and conditioning from what it was on your previous paddle in similar conditions; before leaving review possible scenarios (possible exit strategies should paddling prove difficult); consider consequences of accumulated small problems (should you be delayed, will that cause other difficulties);​ consider emersion and remount as a practical check before setting out; consider the readiness of others in your group. 
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-On Group Dynamics -- decide explicitly and before leaving on a paddling formation (if any) and on expectations (staying together, sending someone for help, etc. should problems arise); resist group pressure to go (your buddies will respect you for not jeopardizing their run); tell group members if you think they are not ready for conditions on that occasion (your buddies will respect you for keeping them safe). 
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-On Responsibility -- we are responsible for our own decisions; we can also influence one another; it is our responsibility to keep our ego in check (assess as honestly as we can and consider our past performance). 
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-Suggestions sought: more thoughts on group paddling protocol, thoughts on a group plan, thoughts on peer assessment, additions to emergency gear. 
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-**Re: Storm Paddling\\ 
-Reivers Dustin** \\ 
-01/​10/​10 ​ #7692 
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-I am (again) blown away by the quality of the people in the group last night. ​ ... and those cookies! 
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-The task here is very difficult. ​ As we entered this season I was feeling we might have a serious loss on the bay.  I had shared this with a few and it seems each and every one of you has stepped forward in your own way and given me faith. ​ They say that people don't resist change, they resist 'being changed'​. ​ You are the proof. 
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-However, some of the insights rattled my paradigm. ​ Simon: - is it wise/​fun/​practical to go out in these conditions? ​ J. Hedge: - we seem to think we're doing another Wed Niter, eh?  Various: - tell the newbie they can't do it. 
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-I'll save these discussion notes. ​ Morris and Edoh were being gentle about it: We Must get some concrete things out of our work together. ​ I think a checklist is a good '​deliverable'​. ​ Peter'​s information from the C.G. was great. ​ Maybe we can do a meeting with the C.G. 
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-If you are reading this, you are important. ​ The get together last night was fun, but also puts a load on the host.  Hopefully we can do some work here by messages. ​ I am thinking of Else.  Each of us has strong feelings. ​ You can't tell it, but I'm holding back so much to keep from bloating this message up with how cool and wonderful everyone is.  Thank you. 
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-Reivers 
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-**Edoh'​s Notes\\ 
-Reivers Dustin** \\ 
-01/​10/​10 ​ #7694 
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-I've saved the meeting notes in a file named "​100109 Safety Session"​. ​ If you log into Whatcompaddlers on the web, go to the '​Files'​ on the left of the screen, then look for '​Safety'​ or you can cut and paste the following:​\\ 
-http://​groups.yahoo.com/​group/​whatcompaddlers/​files/​Safety%20Files/​ 
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-You'll also see some bits & pieces from previous safety discussions that have gone down.  Somewhere in there I've saved the Coast Guard risk assessment guide that uses the Green, Amber, Red (GAR) model. ​ This basic approach is used in industry to guide workplace and task specific safety. 
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-RD 
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-(by the way, that filename looks cryptic, but it's simple. ​ Filesorting works wonderfully well when preceded by the yr/mo/dy format. ​ If we do more notes, this will be a blessing.) 
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-**Re: Edoh's Notes\\ 
-Jeff Hegedus <​jhegedus@...>​** \\ 
-01/​10/​10 ​ #7696 
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-Thanks Reivers, Morris, Debbie Edoh and everyone! ​ The evening was a very nice step in evolving a more formal safety protocol for winter cold water open cockpit small craft paddling. ​ With this outline, it would be interesting to have another meeting, and focus on developing just one piece of the protocol. ​ For example, finish '​Equipment Checklist,'​ or get on '​Winter Dress Code Strategies.' ​ Most interesting might be getting around to ' Solo, Duo and Group Paddling.' ​ Good jon everyone! ​ Looks like a sunny day, see you on the water! 
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-**"​Morris Arthur"​ <​marthur@...>​ wrote:** 
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-Thanks to all who showed up:\\ 
-Often, each of us is a solo paddler, sneaking off for a glorious hour on the water, but Saturday night, we continued to demonstrate that we are a community that cares deeply for the sport and each other (and not in that order :) 
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-OK, let's focus on some tangible outcomes related to the most popular lines of discussion. I suggest: 
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-1) A pre-launch checklist. 
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-2) A consensus agreement on group paddling protocol. 
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-I'm a fan of get-togethers,​ especially if there is food and drink involved. However, for  1) A pre-launch checklist , I suggest that we brainstorm a huge long list electronically. Then, we can compile the list, organize a party (oops, "​meeting"​) and fine-tune the list. OK? 
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-The easiest way for us to brainstorm a list would be via Whatcompaddlers with a single thread/​subject. (e.g. I would post a message with subject "​Pre-launch checklist"​ and then any Whatcompaddler could add to the list by replying to that post.) 
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-Alternatively,​ I  (or someone else with web skills like DJ & Kristen) could start a new storm paddling web site with a bulletin board, or we could start another (temporary?​) Yahoo group to keep the traffic off Whatcom paddlers. Opinions? (especially from Reivers :) 
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-What about 2) ?  This relates to informal paddle excursions where we all just happen to launch at the same time (specifically,​ Saturday at 9am).\\ 
-We could also brainstorm some ideas online before calling another party meeting... 
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-Any comments and ideas about objectives or process? (i.e. before we jump into content) 
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-Thanks again,\\ 
-Morris 
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-**Reivers Dustin** \\ 
-01/​11/​10 ​ #7703 
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-Excellent. ​ You are tracking the best line here, Morris. 
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-Regards high traffic on WhatcomPaddlers:​ not a concern. ​ In fact some of our important resources are not computer wizards, just sensible folks. ​ So whatever we can do to make it simple for average paddlers is my favorite. ​ I've tried using the "​Polls"​ feature on yahoogroups and it is cumbersome. ​ But it's one more tool. 
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-If we get the opportunity to do our own real live website I would be delighted. ​ Note: I am not the awesome web-wonk that you all think I am.  I just was bored one day and started checking all the little boxes on Yahoo. ​ You can have my awesome powers if you want, but someone already stole my superhero costume. ​ Get your own. 
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-Now for some boring reference information: ​ some of us cannot log into yahoogroups often (workplace security, etc.)  If you just get emails of these messages, the high traffic might be bothersome. ​ You have choices: daily or weekly digests might work for you.  My favorite is to log directly to the yahoogroups site with username/​password and check the postings at my convenience. ​ (I get no email traffic.) ​ Also, you might get a notice of '​bouncing membership'​ this is because yahoogroups checks your email address on file to make sure it is '​live'​. ​ If it isn't, your membership might get '​bounced'​. ​ Make sure you give them a working email addy.  If you change, you'll have to update. ​ If you need any help tweaking your settings, contact Larry G. or myself. 
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