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| **lori & beau whitehead** \\ | **lori & beau whitehead** \\ | ||
| - | 02/28/13 #13988 | + | 02/28/13 #13988 |
| - | I was touring the Navy vessel moored at Fairhaven, with the fire department for emergency response plans, and a sea kayaker paddled by about 150 feet away. The Fairhaven Shipyard employee giving us the tour immediately got on his radio to alert the Coast Guard. I asked him what was up. He said that at all times there is a 300 foot "off-limits" radius around the dry docks. And when a Navy vessel is there, its 1000'. | + | I was touring the Navy vessel moored at Fairhaven, with the fire department for emergency response plans, and a sea kayaker paddled by about 150 feet away. The Fairhaven Shipyard employee giving us the tour immediately got on his radio to alert the Coast Guard. I asked him what was up. He said that at all times there is a 300 foot "off-limits" radius around the dry docks. And when a Navy vessel is there, its 1000'. |
| - | I asked him how a paddler is supposed to know that as there is zero signage anywhere. He didn't have a good answer. | + | I asked him how a paddler is supposed to know that as there is zero signage anywhere. He didn't have a good answer. |
| - | I told him that apparently I have been trespassing there about 1000 times... He did not think that was very funny, although I did. | + | I told him that apparently I have been trespassing there about 1000 times… He did not think that was very funny, although I did. |
| - | And he really did not like the fact that occasionally folks paddle directly under the piers.... During races.... Not naming any names... | + | And he really did not like the fact that occasionally folks paddle directly under the piers…. During races…. Not naming any names… |
| Beau Whitehead | Beau Whitehead | ||
| **Dale McKinnon** \\ | **Dale McKinnon** \\ | ||
| - | 02/28/13 #13989 | + | 02/28/13 #13989 |
| - | Beau, right after 2002, when the Patriot Act when into effect, the 1,000' radius became law for all government vessels, and that includes the ferries... | + | Beau, right after 2002, when the Patriot Act when into effect, the 1,000' radius became law for all government vessels, and that includes the ferries… |
| - | HOWEVER, common sense had prevailed in the day-to-day events around the shipyard. I've noticed fewer and fewer incidences and complaints from the Shipyard personnel over the past ten years regarding paddlers/rowers/SUPers getting too close to the drydock. I always row about thirty-fifty feet away from the drydock when I head out and around toward Chuckanut from the CBC. Haven't had anyone yell at me. That may be a perk of gray hair. I presume the Navy ship will still be there on March 16... The Roughwater race will give the shipyard lots to yell about, since the race will take contestants easily within 1,000 feet of the drydock. If they complain it will be to a herd of cats. The Coast Guard isn't going to get too tweaked about it. Unless there is a fire-hydrant attitude about the Navy being there... | + | HOWEVER, common sense had prevailed in the day-to-day events around the shipyard. I've noticed fewer and fewer incidences and complaints from the Shipyard personnel over the past ten years regarding paddlers/rowers/SUPers getting too close to the drydock. I always row about thirty-fifty feet away from the drydock when I head out and around toward Chuckanut from the CBC. Haven't had anyone yell at me. That may be a perk of gray hair. I presume the Navy ship will still be there on March 16… The Roughwater race will give the shipyard lots to yell about, since the race will take contestants easily within 1,000 feet of the drydock. If they complain it will be to a herd of cats. The Coast Guard isn't going to get too tweaked about it. Unless there is a fire-hydrant attitude about the Navy being there… |
| **Reivers Dustin** \\ | **Reivers Dustin** \\ | ||
| - | 02/28/13 #13990 | + | 02/28/13 #13990 |
| - | This is a case where you want to retain the information. Likely nothing will ever come of it. Although it's unwise to torment the C.G. or the Navy they probably won't bother you. But it's a little like baiting animals. They have few options besides space to establish any natural security for themselves. | + | This is a case where you want to retain the information. Likely nothing will ever come of it. Although it's unwise to torment the C.G. or the Navy they probably won't bother you. But it's a little like baiting animals. They have few options besides space to establish any natural security for themselves. |
| - | What this means to you and I: if there is ever "an incident" on board, the consequences will appear out of all proportion (to us). We're thinking wtf is with the bullhorns and live-fire drill. Even something simple like a spill drill or a simulated loss of power (without warning). These things stress the vessel and suddenly you can't be far enough away. | + | What this means to you and I: if there is ever "an incident" on board, the consequences will appear out of all proportion (to us). We're thinking wtf is with the bullhorns and live-fire drill. Even something simple like a spill drill or a simulated loss of power (without warning). These things stress the vessel and suddenly you can't be far enough away. |
| Situational awareness. | Situational awareness. | ||
| **lori & beau whitehead** \\ | **lori & beau whitehead** \\ | ||
| - | 03/01/13 #13995 | + | 03/01/13 #13995 |
| - | For as many times that I've passed close enough to touch the docks with my paddle and never been chased-down by black-ops patrol boats, I don't think its much of an issue. Just passing on the info...\\ | + | For as many times that I've passed close enough to touch the docks with my paddle and never been chased-down by black-ops patrol boats, I don't think its much of an issue. Just passing on the info…\\ |
| The official guy giving the tour seemed a bit like Barnie Fife i.e: all bark and no bite. | The official guy giving the tour seemed a bit like Barnie Fife i.e: all bark and no bite. | ||
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| **Dale McKinnon** \\ | **Dale McKinnon** \\ | ||
| - | 03/01/13 #13996 | + | 03/01/13 #13996 |
| - | Yer a poet Beau... a bit like Barnie Fife i.e: all bark and no bite. | + | Yer a poet Beau… a bit like Barnie Fife i.e: all bark and no bite. |
| “No protracted war can fail to endanger the freedom of a democratic country”\\ | “No protracted war can fail to endanger the freedom of a democratic country”\\ | ||
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| **Jeff Hegedus** \\ | **Jeff Hegedus** \\ | ||
| - | 03/01/13 #13998 | + | 03/01/13 #13998 |
| Paddling close to the shipyard is a VERY big deal, and the disrespect shown by paddlers is astounding. I personally intervened when the shipyard and Port planned on installing 500 ft buoys within which it was a crime to enter; the shipyard is beyond tolerant, and paddlers are acting like spoiled kids. Its an industrial area, and paddlers should stay well clear. | Paddling close to the shipyard is a VERY big deal, and the disrespect shown by paddlers is astounding. I personally intervened when the shipyard and Port planned on installing 500 ft buoys within which it was a crime to enter; the shipyard is beyond tolerant, and paddlers are acting like spoiled kids. Its an industrial area, and paddlers should stay well clear. | ||
| **David Scherrer** \\ | **David Scherrer** \\ | ||
| - | 03/01/13 #13999 | + | 03/01/13 #13999 |
| Reason needs to step in here a little.\\ | Reason needs to step in here a little.\\ | ||
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| **Reivers Dustin** \\ | **Reivers Dustin** \\ | ||
| - | 03/02/13 #14000 | + | 03/02/13 #14000 |
| - | I've seen what Jeff was talking about. Saw a couple of kayakers go up to the C.G. Cutter and bang on the hull with their paddles. They seemed to be having a great time. Then they went over to the Alaska Ferry, apparently with similar intentions. They must have been yelled at or something. They moved off, but didn't seem at all intimidated. After all, what can happen - they are U.S. Citizens right? | + | I've seen what Jeff was talking about. Saw a couple of kayakers go up to the C.G. Cutter and bang on the hull with their paddles. They seemed to be having a great time. Then they went over to the Alaska Ferry, apparently with similar intentions. They must have been yelled at or something. They moved off, but didn't seem at all intimidated. After all, what can happen - they are U.S. Citizens right? |
| - | Reminds me of seeing several young ladies walking across the street, two had baby carriages. They pushed the baby carriage out and of course traffic parted. My point: paddler traffic hasn't been enough of a problem for serious enforcement. But if it escalates, those with a lot at stake will react in ways we might view as draconian. (i.e. close Fairhaven & Marine Pk to paddler traffic.) | + | Reminds me of seeing several young ladies walking across the street, two had baby carriages. They pushed the baby carriage out and of course traffic parted. My point: paddler traffic hasn't been enough of a problem for serious enforcement. But if it escalates, those with a lot at stake will react in ways we might view as draconian. (i.e. close Fairhaven & Marine Pk to paddler traffic.) |
| - | Had I never seen those knuckleheads banging on the hull, I suppose this would seem a tempest in a teacup. I'm really hoping it all stays informal. Effective signage?, what a hassle. | + | Had I never seen those knuckleheads banging on the hull, I suppose this would seem a tempest in a teacup. I'm really hoping it all stays informal. Effective signage?, what a hassle. |
| rd | rd | ||
| **dnjacobson79** \\ | **dnjacobson79** \\ | ||
| - | 03/02/13 #14001 | + | 03/02/13 #14001 |
| - | I was pulled over twice by the coast guard last year; once for surfing the wake of a tug & once on dawn patrol as I set out around Lummi. Both times were fine interactions with plenty of 'yes sir/ no sir' answers. Interestingly they asked for ID both times, which I don't carry while paddling - but I gave them my name, Brandon Nelson, never heard any follow-up from them though.\\ | + | I was pulled over twice by the coast guard last year; once for surfing the wake of a tug & once on dawn patrol as I set out around Lummi. Both times were fine interactions with plenty of 'yes sir/ no sir' answers. Interestingly they asked for ID both times, which I don't carry while paddling - but I gave them my name, Brandon Nelson, never heard any follow-up from them though.\\ |
| See ya on the waves - blowing 15-20, temp in the 50's, is this paradise or what!\\ | See ya on the waves - blowing 15-20, temp in the 50's, is this paradise or what!\\ | ||
| -DJ | -DJ | ||
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| **allipp01** | **allipp01** | ||
| - | 03/02/13 #14002 | + | 03/02/13 #14002 |
| - | DJ 9:30 Squalicum Beach this morning.....then off to Wildcat for a downwinder. BE THERE! | + | DJ 9:30 Squalicum Beach this morning…..then off to Wildcat for a downwinder. BE THERE! |
| **Jeff Hegedus** \\ | **Jeff Hegedus** \\ | ||
| - | 03/02/13 #14003 | + | 03/02/13 #14003 |
| 'Reason' would dictate that paddlers just stay 'well clear.' Anyone not staying 'well clear' is being disrespectful. | 'Reason' would dictate that paddlers just stay 'well clear.' Anyone not staying 'well clear' is being disrespectful. | ||
| **donbuethorn** \\ | **donbuethorn** \\ | ||
| - | 03/02/13 #14006 | + | 03/02/13 #14006 |
| Ahab had nightmares that came true when Moby Dick rammed the Pequod and sent it to the bottom of the sea. A white surfski is to Moby as a Coast Guard Cutter is to the Pequod and the nightmares for Ensign Smith are as haunting as Ahab's. Any act named "patriot" has to be good and any loss of liberty is worth being protected from threats identified by our government. | Ahab had nightmares that came true when Moby Dick rammed the Pequod and sent it to the bottom of the sea. A white surfski is to Moby as a Coast Guard Cutter is to the Pequod and the nightmares for Ensign Smith are as haunting as Ahab's. Any act named "patriot" has to be good and any loss of liberty is worth being protected from threats identified by our government. | ||
| - | **dnjacobson79** | + | \\ |
| + | **Re: Fairhaven Shipyard 'Rules'-Use to be a sign!\\ | ||
| + | Pmarcus** \\ | ||
| + | 03/02/13 #14004 | ||
| - | 03/02/13 #14007 | + | Actually...there use to be a sign that hung on the outside of the smaller drydock (big one is gone now) that read stay off 500 feet....and I think there is a small one posted on the end of the dock where the crane usually sits....not sure if that has a "feet" requirement. |
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| - | We wanted to catch the good waves and met at 9am (though we missed lake night Kirk) AND we had a shuttle driver, THANKS Sarah G. Good waves for the Fenn downwind crew, how did the OC1 rally go? - did we leave any waves 4 you , how many swims?? - DJ | + | |
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