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-  *  [[:surfskis|Main Surfski Page]]
+  *  [[:surfskis|Main Choosing a Surfski Page]]
       * [[:surfski_tables|Non-Plastic Surfski Spec Tables with Reviews]] (singles and doubles)
       * [[:ski_makers|Surfski Companies]]
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   * Zack Handler: "Keep in mind too that the plastic skis use a different construction (//Ed. - all plastic skis?//) than most plastic sea kayaks and recreational kayaks. Rather than solid plastic they are a sort of sandwich construction with aerated plastic "foam" in the middle between solid plastic walls. They are stiffer than solid plastic (//Ed. - which should make for better speed//), but the trade off is they are a bit more brittle and prone to damage from sharp impacts."
   * Various construction methods: rotomolded PE vs. rotomolded skin/foam PE vs. thermoformed ABS vs. Vajda's Styrolight
+  * **Care**
+      * [[:plastic_v7_manual|Epic Kayaks Manual for V5, V7]] includes storage and transportation advice applicable to all plastic surfskis
 ===== Options =====
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       * [[http://www.cobrakayaks.com/recreational-kayaks/radical-kayaks/|Website]]
       * [[https://paddling.com/gear/cobra-kayaks-eliminator-kayak|Paddling.com review - Eliminator]] (no longer made)
-  * **DragoRossi**  (HDTP polyethene)
+  * **DragoRossi**  (website says "HDTP polyethene" - but polyethene is just another name for polyethylene)
       * [[https://dragorossi.com/en/product/sprintwave/|SprintWave]] pop-up rudder [[https://youtu.be/dINDP0b1zh4|sport show video]]
   * **Epic**
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         * [[https://youtu.be/DIx0l5tsu4M|M. Sundin Intro Video]] 1/13/2021 (plastic)
         * [[https://www.k2nonlinepaddleschool.com/post/surfski-gear-review-epic-v7-plastic|Robert Norman review]] 2/24/2023 (plastic)
+      * [[:plastic_v7_manual|Manual for V5, V7]] this is Epic's Manual but it has advice on care and transport which applies to plastic surfskis in general
   * **Finn **  (Australian maker of plastic boats - not to be confused with South Africa's Fenn surfskis)
       * [[https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100057245808466|Facebook Page]]
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       * [[https://youtu.be/9vqmRlp44Bg|Video - surfing with a Molokai]]
   * **Liker **  (China)
-      * [[http://likerkayak.com/product-detail-231608.html|Onwind]] (are all 507s?, Björn Thomasson's?)
+      * [[http://likerkayak.com/product-detail-231608.html|Onwind]] plenty of leg room for taller paddlers (See Brett M review below). are all 507s?, Björn Thomasson's? we have seen photos of Liker surfskis without a front hatch and with underside surfski type rudders instead of retractable sea kayak style rudders. Simply options with the same basic body designs?
         * [[https://www.thomassondesign.com/en/news/surfski-from-china|Comments by Swedish Designer]]
-        * [[https://youtu.be/fJg9iYZ2EwQ|video review]], [[https://youtu.be/W7vOz4vehyo|video review in Spanish]]
+        * [[https://youtu.be/fJg9iYZ2EwQ|Brett McDonald video review]], [[https://youtu.be/W7vOz4vehyo|video review in Spanish]]
         * [[https://www.kajaksidan.se/products/liker-onwind-surfski|Kajaksidan]] Liker Onwind PE for sale in Sweden
+          * [[https://youtu.be/bg99pENWqv4|video review]]
   * **Nelo**
       * [[https://www.nelo.eu/product/510/|510]] 50% recycled material
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         * [[https://www.k2nonlinepaddleschool.com/post/surfski-gear-review-nelo-510-plastic|Robert Norman review]] 2/8/2023
         * [[https://www.facebook.com/510paddlingclass/about_details|Nelo 510 Paddling Class]] Facebook group for 510 owners
-        * [[https://youtu.be/UqDoFt7UltA|Conversion of 510 into Outrigger Canoe]] 2023 video how-to with available conversion kit. They may be assuming that you will still be paddling with a double bladed paddle, because we haven't seen any instructions for changing the seating to better suit a single bladed canoer.
+        * [[https://youtu.be/UqDoFt7UltA|Conversion of 510 into Outrigger Canoe]] 2023 video how-to with available conversion kit. They may be assuming that you will still be paddling with a double bladed paddle, because we haven't seen any instructions for changing the seating to better suit a single bladed canoer. (one option we have seen from a paddler who did not modify his seat position has been to use a significantly shorter canoe paddle than would be used in an outrigger or just about any other canoe)
           * [[https://paddle-lab.com/510 aluminium yakos.html|510 iakos w/ connectors]]
           * [[https://paddle-lab.com/510 oc1 ama.html|510 Ama]]
   * **Nordic Kayak**
-      * [[https://nordickayaks.com/kayaks/clubline/breeze/|Breeze PE]] (some of the NK websites say recycled plastic and others don't - we believe that the newer version is made from recycled plastic) The Breeze is reportedly made by Liker (the photos look identical)
+      * [[https://nordickayaks.com/kayaks/clubline/breeze/|Breeze PE]] (some of the NK websites say recycled plastic and others don't - we believe that the newer version is made from recycled plastic) The Breeze is reportedly made by Liker (the photos are similar, but the Breeze does not have a front hatch and does have an underside rudder)
   * **Ocean Kayak**
       * **Sprinter **- no longer manufactured - reportedly can be a bit of a wet ride for heavier paddlers. Also not for the tallest or longest legged folks.
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-===== Downwinds in Plastic Surfskis =====
+===== Videos =====
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+  * [[:plastic_surfski_videos|Plastic Surfski Videos]]
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-**Epic V7**
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-**Nelo 510**
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-**Epic V5 (at least one of these is rotomolded)**
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-===== Surfing in Plastic Surfskis =====
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-**Spirit PRS 570**
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-**Epic V5**
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-**Epic V5 Surfing in Taiwan - with Greenland style paddle**
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-**Pyranha Octane**
-[[https://youtu.be/YucrTTra_pM?t=384|surfing video]] (the Octane is the red surfski - this video did not allow embedded window)
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-===== Flatwater in Plastic Surfski =====
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-**Nelo 510**
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