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| - | [[:surfskis|Main Surfski Page]] | + | * [[:surfskis|Main Choosing a Surfski Page]] |
| - | + | * [[:surfski_tables|Non-Plastic Surfski Spec Tables with Reviews]] (singles and doubles) | |
| - | * [[:surfski_tables|Non-Plastic Surfski Spec Tables with Reviews]] (singles and doubles) | + | * [[:ski_makers|Surfski Companies]] |
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| - | **Plastic** (typically polyethylene) surfskis are **considerably heavier** than their fiber based (fiberglass, carbon, Kevlar) siblings, but they do have a very significant **advantage** over their lighter counterparts in terms of **durability and capacity to absorb collisions and abrasions**. If you are anticipating rough care and/or negligent storage habits for a surfski OR you want to use a surfski for **rivers** or **shore breaks** where bumps and scrapes are likely, then a plastic surfski might very well be a worthwhile investment. They are **less expensive** than their fiber construction equivalents. Plastic surfskis can also be handy for rescue drills where you do not want to worry about banging surfskis together. | + | **Plastic** (typically polyethylene) surfskis are **considerably heavier** than their fiber based (fiberglass, carbon, Kevlar) siblings, but they do have a very significant **advantage** over their lighter counterparts in terms of **durability and capacity to absorb collisions and abrasions**. If you are anticipating rough care and/or negligent storage habits for a surfski OR you want to use a surfski for **rivers** or **shore breaks** where bumps and scrapes are likely, then a plastic surfski might very well be a worthwhile investment. They are **less expensive** than their fiber construction equivalents. Plastic surfskis **can also be handy for rescue drills** where you do not want to worry about banging surfskis together. Some plastic surfskis also have **flip up rudder options** (sea kayak style) that can be quite useful if you will be doing a lot of shallow water paddling. |
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| * Zack Handler: "Keep in mind too that the plastic skis use a different construction (//Ed. - all plastic skis?//) than most plastic sea kayaks and recreational kayaks. Rather than solid plastic they are a sort of sandwich construction with aerated plastic "foam" in the middle between solid plastic walls. They are stiffer than solid plastic (//Ed. - which should make for better speed//), but the trade off is they are a bit more brittle and prone to damage from sharp impacts." | * Zack Handler: "Keep in mind too that the plastic skis use a different construction (//Ed. - all plastic skis?//) than most plastic sea kayaks and recreational kayaks. Rather than solid plastic they are a sort of sandwich construction with aerated plastic "foam" in the middle between solid plastic walls. They are stiffer than solid plastic (//Ed. - which should make for better speed//), but the trade off is they are a bit more brittle and prone to damage from sharp impacts." | ||
| * Various construction methods: rotomolded PE vs. rotomolded skin/foam PE vs. thermoformed ABS vs. Vajda's Styrolight | * Various construction methods: rotomolded PE vs. rotomolded skin/foam PE vs. thermoformed ABS vs. Vajda's Styrolight | ||
| + | * **Care** | ||
| + | * [[:plastic_v7_manual|Epic Kayaks Manual for V5, V7]] includes storage and transportation advice applicable to all plastic surfskis | ||
| ===== Options ===== | ===== Options ===== | ||
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| - | Many of these models are **no longer being manufactured**, but due to their durability they **can still come up for sale (used)** from time to time. Or if you advertise that you are looking for one, you may spark some owner's recollection of the one sitting in their back yard that they no longer ever paddle. But **pay attention to UV damage/sag** if the boat has been basking in the sun for a long time. Sag can sometimes be corrected by flipping the boat for a period in the sun. Ultimately these boats should probably be stored sideways? | + | Many of these models are **no longer being manufactured**, but due to their durability they **can still come up for sale (used)** from time to time on [[:used_boats_equipment|used equipment webpages]] and auction websites. Or if you advertise that you are looking for one, you may spark some owner's recollection of the one sitting in their back yard that they no longer ever paddle. But **pay attention to UV damage/sag** if the boat has been basking in the sun for a long time. Sag can sometimes be corrected by flipping the boat for a period in the sun. Ultimately these boats should probably be stored sideways? |
| * **Carbonology Sport** | * **Carbonology Sport** | ||
| * [[https://www.carbonologysport.com/cruze-x-rt/|Cruze X RT]] sometime in 2022-2023 New label appeared with "RT" standing for Rotomolded | * [[https://www.carbonologysport.com/cruze-x-rt/|Cruze X RT]] sometime in 2022-2023 New label appeared with "RT" standing for Rotomolded | ||
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| * [[http://www.cobrakayaks.com/recreational-kayaks/radical-kayaks/|Website]] | * [[http://www.cobrakayaks.com/recreational-kayaks/radical-kayaks/|Website]] | ||
| * [[https://paddling.com/gear/cobra-kayaks-eliminator-kayak|Paddling.com review - Eliminator]] (no longer made) | * [[https://paddling.com/gear/cobra-kayaks-eliminator-kayak|Paddling.com review - Eliminator]] (no longer made) | ||
| + | * **DragoRossi** (website says "HDTP polyethene" - but polyethene is just another name for polyethylene) | ||
| + | * [[https://dragorossi.com/en/product/sprintwave/|SprintWave]] pop-up rudder [[https://youtu.be/dINDP0b1zh4|sport show video]] | ||
| * **Epic** | * **Epic** | ||
| * [[https://www.epickayaks.com/v5|V5]] | * [[https://www.epickayaks.com/v5|V5]] | ||
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| * [[https://youtu.be/DIx0l5tsu4M|M. Sundin Intro Video]] 1/13/2021 (plastic) | * [[https://youtu.be/DIx0l5tsu4M|M. Sundin Intro Video]] 1/13/2021 (plastic) | ||
| * [[https://www.k2nonlinepaddleschool.com/post/surfski-gear-review-epic-v7-plastic|Robert Norman review]] 2/24/2023 (plastic) | * [[https://www.k2nonlinepaddleschool.com/post/surfski-gear-review-epic-v7-plastic|Robert Norman review]] 2/24/2023 (plastic) | ||
| + | * [[:plastic_v7_manual|Manual for V5, V7]] this is Epic's Manual but it has advice on care and transport which applies to plastic surfskis in general | ||
| * **Finn ** (Australian maker of plastic boats - not to be confused with South Africa's Fenn surfskis) | * **Finn ** (Australian maker of plastic boats - not to be confused with South Africa's Fenn surfskis) | ||
| + | * [[https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100057245808466|Facebook Page]] | ||
| * **Molokai**, **Endorfinn** - both - manufacturing seems discontinued. | * **Molokai**, **Endorfinn** - both - manufacturing seems discontinued. | ||
| * [[https://youtu.be/9vqmRlp44Bg|Video - surfing with a Molokai]] | * [[https://youtu.be/9vqmRlp44Bg|Video - surfing with a Molokai]] | ||
| * **Liker ** (China) | * **Liker ** (China) | ||
| - | * [[http://likerkayak.com/product-detail-231608.html|Onwind]] (are all 507s?, Björn Thomasson's?) | + | * [[http://likerkayak.com/product-detail-231608.html|Onwind]] plenty of leg room for taller paddlers (See Brett M review below). are all 507s?, Björn Thomasson's? we have seen photos of Liker surfskis without a front hatch and with underside surfski type rudders instead of retractable sea kayak style rudders. Simply options with the same basic body designs? |
| * [[https://www.thomassondesign.com/en/news/surfski-from-china|Comments by Swedish Designer]] | * [[https://www.thomassondesign.com/en/news/surfski-from-china|Comments by Swedish Designer]] | ||
| - | * [[https://youtu.be/fJg9iYZ2EwQ|video review]], [[https://youtu.be/W7vOz4vehyo|video review in Spanish]] | + | * [[https://youtu.be/fJg9iYZ2EwQ|Brett McDonald video review]], [[https://youtu.be/W7vOz4vehyo|video review in Spanish]] |
| * [[https://www.kajaksidan.se/products/liker-onwind-surfski|Kajaksidan]] Liker Onwind PE for sale in Sweden | * [[https://www.kajaksidan.se/products/liker-onwind-surfski|Kajaksidan]] Liker Onwind PE for sale in Sweden | ||
| + | * [[https://youtu.be/bg99pENWqv4|video review]] | ||
| * **Nelo** | * **Nelo** | ||
| * [[https://www.nelo.eu/product/510/|510]] 50% recycled material | * [[https://www.nelo.eu/product/510/|510]] 50% recycled material | ||
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| * [[https://www.k2nonlinepaddleschool.com/post/surfski-gear-review-nelo-510-plastic|Robert Norman review]] 2/8/2023 | * [[https://www.k2nonlinepaddleschool.com/post/surfski-gear-review-nelo-510-plastic|Robert Norman review]] 2/8/2023 | ||
| * [[https://www.facebook.com/510paddlingclass/about_details|Nelo 510 Paddling Class]] Facebook group for 510 owners | * [[https://www.facebook.com/510paddlingclass/about_details|Nelo 510 Paddling Class]] Facebook group for 510 owners | ||
| - | * [[https://youtu.be/UqDoFt7UltA|Conversion of 510 into Outrigger Canoe]] 2023 video how-to with available conversion kit. They may be assuming that you will still be paddling with a double bladed paddle, because we haven't seen any instructions for changing the seating to better suit a single bladed canoer. | + | * [[https://youtu.be/UqDoFt7UltA|Conversion of 510 into Outrigger Canoe]] 2023 video how-to with available conversion kit. They may be assuming that you will still be paddling with a double bladed paddle, because we haven't seen any instructions for changing the seating to better suit a single bladed canoer. (one option we have seen from a paddler who did not modify his seat position has been to use a significantly shorter canoe paddle than would be used in an outrigger or just about any other canoe) |
| * [[https://paddle-lab.com/510 aluminium yakos.html|510 iakos w/ connectors]] | * [[https://paddle-lab.com/510 aluminium yakos.html|510 iakos w/ connectors]] | ||
| * [[https://paddle-lab.com/510 oc1 ama.html|510 Ama]] | * [[https://paddle-lab.com/510 oc1 ama.html|510 Ama]] | ||
| * **Nordic Kayak** | * **Nordic Kayak** | ||
| - | * [[https://www.nordickayaks.se/doc/breeze-en.php|Breeze PE]] (some of the NK websites say recycled plastic and others don't - we believe that the newer version is made from recycled plastic) The Breeze is reportedly made by Liker (the photos look identical) | + | * [[https://nordickayaks.com/kayaks/clubline/breeze/|Breeze PE]] (some of the NK websites say recycled plastic and others don't - we believe that the newer version is made from recycled plastic) The Breeze is reportedly made by Liker (the photos are similar, but the Breeze does not have a front hatch and does have an underside rudder) |
| * **Ocean Kayak** | * **Ocean Kayak** | ||
| * **Sprinter **- no longer manufactured - reportedly can be a bit of a wet ride for heavier paddlers. Also not for the tallest or longest legged folks. | * **Sprinter **- no longer manufactured - reportedly can be a bit of a wet ride for heavier paddlers. Also not for the tallest or longest legged folks. | ||
| + | * [[https://paddling.com/gear/ocean-kayak-sprinter-kayak|Paddling.com reviews]] | ||
| * **Spirit **in Australia used to make several different plastic surfskis but we cannot find a working website for them so we assume they went out of business. Some of their models are reputedly quite fast for plastic surfskis. | * **Spirit **in Australia used to make several different plastic surfskis but we cannot find a working website for them so we assume they went out of business. Some of their models are reputedly quite fast for plastic surfskis. | ||
| - | * **Fury **- [[https://web.archive.org/web/20150228140639/http://spiritpaddle.com.au/ProductDetail/19/FURY-RACING-SKI|wayback machine description]] | + | * **Fury** |
| + | * [[https://web.archive.org/web/20150228140639/http://spiritpaddle.com.au/ProductDetail/19/FURY-RACING-SKI|wayback machine description]] | ||
| + | * [[https://www.surfski.info/forum/19-boats/17274-fastest-plastic-ski-ever-made-sneak-peak.html|Surfski.info Discussion 2013]] | ||
| * **Spirit PRS** [[https://web.archive.org/web/20150228140549/http://spiritpaddle.com.au/ProductDetail/17/PRS-SKI|description from web wayback machine]] (given its length of 5.67 m, maybe it was always the PRS 570?) | * **Spirit PRS** [[https://web.archive.org/web/20150228140549/http://spiritpaddle.com.au/ProductDetail/17/PRS-SKI|description from web wayback machine]] (given its length of 5.67 m, maybe it was always the PRS 570?) | ||
| * [[https://youtu.be/H7WJHVpufOo|video on Eel River]] | * [[https://youtu.be/H7WJHVpufOo|video on Eel River]] | ||
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| * [[https://www.k2nonlinepaddleschool.com/post/surfski-gear-review-spirit-prs-570-plastic|Robert Norman review]] 1/19/2023 | * [[https://www.k2nonlinepaddleschool.com/post/surfski-gear-review-spirit-prs-570-plastic|Robert Norman review]] 1/19/2023 | ||
| * **Think** | * **Think** | ||
| - | * Briefly offered the "**Nitro**" as a plastic option. The same surfski was also sold as the "**Pyranha Octane**". Neither seems to be currently manufactured. [[https://youtu.be/YucrTTra_pM|surfing video]] (red boat is an Octane - we think) | + | * Briefly offered the "**Nitro**" as a plastic option. The same surfski was also sold as the "**Pyranha Octane**". Neither seems to be currently manufactured. [[https://youtu.be/YucrTTra_pM?t=376|surfing video]] (red boat is an Octane - we think) |
| + | * Review from Chris Hipgrave in [[https://web.archive.org/web/20180419210508/http://www.surfskinews.com:80/review-blog/2016/9/10/review-pyranha-octanethink-nitro-chris-hipgrave|Wayback Machine]] | ||
| * **Vajda** | * **Vajda** | ||
| - | * [[https://paddling.com/gear/raptor-ski/|Raptor]] made with Styrolight® - styrene-based plastics material with an acrylic surface layer which gives a more shiny appearance than typical with plastic boats. | + | * **Raptor** |
| + | * [[https://paddling.com/gear/raptor-ski/|Paddling.com]] | ||
| + | * [[https://www.vajdagroup.com/gen_page.php?menu=1&catalog_item_id=116|Vajda Webpage]] made with Styrolight® - styrene-based plastics material with an acrylic surface layer which gives a more shiny appearance than typical with plastic boats. | ||
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| - | ===== Downwinds in Plastic Surfskis ===== | + | ===== Videos ===== |
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